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Engineer of the Love Boat I'm a Guy Living in One in Washington | ![]()
In America it seems to me some sexual situations are still taboo today, why do you think that is? Do you think we will ever break out of the cycle? Do you think we already have? What things do you think that mainstream America or World view would be taboo? Please discuss.
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junglist I'm a Male Living in Bellingham Interested in Women |
The way the internet is desensitizing people to sex eventually things will become more mainstream. I recently read an paper that was written by a woman in the UK who was studying the phenomena. She approached it from the viewpoint that a teen boys first exposure to pornography comes at 11 years old and what would they be most likely to see? When I was growing up it was sneaking dad's Playboy's or the occasional Hustler. Now it comes from the internet. So she went with the basics, she googled porn to see what the kids would find. And the stuff they see now, that is considered mainstream on the internet, is pretty brutal & degrading stuff. She went on to look into how that will affect their ability to form normal relationships and shape their views of other people. Noting that changes are already apparent in the current 'Instant' generation. So yeah, if DP & fisting are already pretty mainstream nowadays in porn..not sure I want to see anything that's still considered taboo not still be taboo. |
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Engineer of the Love Boat I'm a Guy Living in One in Washington |
While that is seen on the internet that is one thing. What prime time television? Do you think the more taboo items will make it on tv (not the premium channels) during family viewing time?
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Married and then some. I'm a Female Living in Crazytown Looking for Conversation Humor is Goofy Have a Unique fashion style |
^^^ I think it already has.. sexual innuendos are even in Disney movies for kids. Two and a half men lots of T&A in that show. But then again I grew up with Lucy didn't sleep with Ricky and the clothes were buttoned to the neck. I foresee it getting worse .. I spent a half hour trying to explain to my grandson a line off of planet 51. The alien human is naked the real alien looks at him and says " that's an odd place to put an antenna" While I thought it was funny it wasn't so easy to explain why they thought his penis was an antenna. |
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PNW Love Member I'm a Dude Living in Sequim - Yeah, Baby! |
lets talk about fag humor and how it has been working its way into mainstream tv since the 70s A cross dressing Klinger, a 'Gay' Ritter on 3's Company, the hair dresser in the golden girls (honestly I dont remember the name) Will and Grace, etc etc
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PNW Love Freshman I'm a Guy Living in North Bend |
The boundaries are certainly WAY beyond what they used to be.. When I was a kid, sneaking a playboy from a friends Dad or something was pretty wild and about the limit to what you could get. Yeah, so with the Interwebs, "normal" sexuality is pretty broad and it only takes a few clicks more to get into seriously edgy shit. I have actually wondered if the (seemingly) broader number of "bi-curious" (or whatever) girls is because of the internet generically and because of wider spread porn? I mean MOST guys like 1guy 2 girls, or just lipstick lesbian porn which pushes girl on girl as much more common, which I think in return pushes guys to look for that more and/or girls to be more open to the idea. I dont FEEL (right or wrong) that I am seeing more gay guys in general (granted, I am NOT looking) but while it seems like 50% or more of girls I know have been with a girl at some point, or are bi-curious or flat out openly bi. Just wondering.. ![]() |
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Litte Mary Sunshine I'm a Girl Living in just this of side of hell | Quote:
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PNW Love Member I'm a Dude Living in Sequim - Yeah, Baby! |
girls are premiscuous sluts I mean really, they are in all the porn I watch ;) |
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PNW Love Freshman I'm a Guy Living in North Bend | |
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PNW Love Member I'm a Dude Living in Sequim - Yeah, Baby! |
2 girls one cup ..... too taboo.
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The Force I'm a Guy Living in Seattle Looking for Conversation Interested in Women Humor is Dry/Sarcastic Have a Unique fashion style |
I don't think it's how many people you've been with, I think it's how you treat them. Regardless of your gender, if you treat your partners with respect and are honest about what you're looking for, you're golden. I realize that may not be a "normal" opinion, but it's mine. That double standard is hurtful and it's time for it to go. |
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PNW Love Freshman I'm a Guy Living in North Bend | Quote:
But sleeping around, by itself, to me at least isnt a big deal. | |
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Engineer of the Love Boat I'm a Guy Living in One in Washington |
No sleeping around isn't a big deal I've done more than my fair share. While I've been a douche to the ocasional woman generally things are understood that you are just a one night stand to have some wild freaky sex and then go home. As far as what society considers taboo, I think they are way off. Maybe it's because my "normal" filter was destroyed by being on a sub where guys would bring the craziest porn to see if we could gross each other out. I have no clue.
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PNW Love Member I'm a Dude Living in Sequim - Yeah, Baby! |
ya riding latex til ya pass the test. I dont care how 'innocent' you are. and I figure any girl over 12 has been through the carosel ride ![]() Like i said, they all sluts, just look at the pornos |
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Litte Mary Sunshine I'm a Girl Living in just this of side of hell | Quote:
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Litte Mary Sunshine I'm a Girl Living in just this of side of hell | Quote:
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Litte Mary Sunshine I'm a Girl Living in just this of side of hell | Quote:
I love ya Q but I want to make an incredibly important point. Let's say the FCC allows porn @ 4 in the afternoon. (Yes, I'm pushing for this legislation ![]() I will tell you a true story. When cable first came out I found out my daughter was sneaking out to watch Johnny Carson. This wasn't his problem, this was MY problem. I swear on my mother's ashes..ya know what I did... unhooked the gd cable box every night. I didn't go around blaming the Hollywood or Johnny. Jesus, when will people start taking personal responsiblity | |
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Litte Mary Sunshine I'm a Girl Living in just this of side of hell | Quote:
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Litte Mary Sunshine I'm a Girl Living in just this of side of hell | what's your point. Gay people have been around since humans.
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Litte Mary Sunshine I'm a Girl Living in just this of side of hell | Quote:
you can and cannot love, fall in love with, or be with. I say we turn the tables and tell then how OUR tax dollars should be spent...horrifying I know. | |
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junglist I'm a Male Living in Bellingham Interested in Women | Quote:
It wasn't not about blaming the internet or abdicating personal responsibility it was just about where kids will first be exposed to porn, how that access has changed with technology and how what they will see as their first exposure has changed over time. And trust me, having been a teenage boy once, they will see it regardless of where you put the computer or what type of security you try to implement to restrict access (especially with all the internet devices available now). The main gist just being, what used to be pictures of naked ladies posing or skinamax movies is now fisting and anal gangbangs. | |
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PNW Love Member I'm a Dude Living in Sequim - Yeah, Baby! | what one generation considers scandalous, the next will consider it blasse ie you would never get Will & Grace on in the 50's, hell you werent even allowed to think that Harriet shared a bed. Watch 2 1/2 Men, half that humor would have been late nite TV when we grew up. I remember them not even being able to talk about drugs as being funny until after 10pm. (lest the kiddies get an idea) In twenty years, maybe they have anal fisting as the new deoderant commercial during the Superbowl. |
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Litte Mary Sunshine I'm a Girl Living in just this of side of hell |
[QUOTE=sin808;26395]Probably the same place my parents were when I was stealing my dad's Playboy's. It wasn't not about blaming the internet or abdicating personal responsibility it was just about where kids will first be exposed to porn, how that access has changed with technology and how what they will see as their first exposure has changed over time. And trust me, having been a teenage boy once, they will see it regardless of where you put the computer or what type of security you try to implement to restrict access (especially with all the internet devices available now). The main gist just being, what used to be pictures of naked ladies posing or skinamax movies is now fisting and anal gangbangs.[/QUOTE] Let's delve into this a little deeper..just to make sure we are all on the same page..this kind of behavior was admonished back in the 50's as just simply unacceptible - period. As society has been 'enlightened' we now consider beastiality as a lifesytle choice. So who has allowed this? We have. Now don't get me wrong. There is a VAST difference between what an adult chooses and what a child is exposed to. Not sure if I'm making my point here. |
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Married and then some. I'm a Female Living in Crazytown Looking for Conversation Humor is Goofy Have a Unique fashion style |
The point being its we the people who have allowed what is acceptable on TV. Its what makes the ratings and Big Joe make money. While we monitor our children a keep them from what we feel is inappropriate, a soap commercial comes on and there's naked people in the shower. I blame Archie Bunker he started all of this. ![]() Sex sells plain and simple we can't avoid it and we can't keep our kids from seeing it. Then they go to school and hug Sally and get expelled for 3 days for inappropriate touching. WE live in a don't touch, look at me naked, hear me cuss world and it's F'd up. Give me Leave it to Beaver any day over Desperate Housewives. June may have been desperate but at least we didn't have to see it. ![]() RIP June |
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PNW Love Freshman I'm a Guy Living in North Bend | Quote:
Now I am not drawing equality between say fisting ( ![]() Rhetorical question.. dont all women have breasts? Now granted, some are worth seeing hehehehe ( ![]() This isnt an anarchistic approach of everything is ok and nothing is wrong, as that most certainly isn't the case, but I believe the line being moved substantially is actually best for all of us including society. Yes that also includes folks being fully empowered to limit the message to themselves and their own children. If you are devoutly religeous and want to limit that message to yourself and your kids, I am fine with that and support it. If you take a more libertarian approach (which I have), I support that as well and personally believe that is the right approach. | |
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Very Married I'm a Male Living in Wenatchee |
I don't think there is anything wrong from sheltering kids up to a point from sex and other adult topics while they are very young. They will get exposed to it soon enough from their own curiosity. Adult topics are difficult enough for adults to understand and deal with although once a person is considered an adult it doesn't mean they HAVE to be exposed to mainstream media etc. either... they have matured into an adult so they should be able to make that decision for themselves what they choose to do with their time. At any rate with regards to kids, I think it has more to do with being a parent and knowing what your kids are doing and staying involved with them. Nowadays however there are so many more sources for kids to be exposed to these topics that I would think it would be more difficult to monitor. Looking at the trends from TV, movies, etc. it is undeniable certain that more sex/adult topics will be mainstream and considered "normal" by society as time goes on. The differences from what was on TV and movies in the 50's and even 60's is much different that it is currently and I believe it will continue until the pendulum swings the other way if it ever does. It is just up to the individuals and parents to decide for themselves if they are comfortable being exposed to those things or not. If enough people don't want to see fisting commercials during the superbowl and not buy that product (what would it be?), maybe the advertising firm would rethink their strategy. I guess we'll see! |
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PNW Love Freshman I'm a Guy Living in North Bend | Quote:
Hahahahaaha.. dude.. the product would be Preparation H! HAHAHAAHahahaha.. cools.. soothes.. relieves!! ![]() Bad date? (insert fisting commercial here) Preparation H! ![]() | |
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Very Married I'm a Male Living in Wenatchee |
^^ ha ha! That would be fitting I suppose! ouch. |
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The Force I'm a Guy Living in Seattle Looking for Conversation Interested in Women Humor is Dry/Sarcastic Have a Unique fashion style | Quote:
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Rezident Cynik I'm a Gentleman Living in Various Locations in WA Humor is Dry/Sarcastic |
I'll keep this brief. I'm a perv, I admit it, and I've got some REAL perv friends too. That said, I (and most of my perv friends) have kind of..."squared-out" in the last few years, either because of the realization that most people tend to "Get weird" when sexual situations are involved, even more so if they are widely considered "Taboo." That and, in my experience, friends who fuck rarely stay friends afterward, and I've lost too many friends that way. I will not get into what I personally classify as "taboo," but I will go so far as to say the list is fairly short... ![]() As far as what kind of smut is on TV these days...well, I get my TV and my internet from the same place. Which is to say, I really don't, most the time. Oh, BTW: Hai guys!! |
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PNW Love Member I'm a Dude Living in Sequim - Yeah, Baby! |
I am all for open and honest expression in your own bedroom/barn. beyond that I dont want to hear about it. I dont want to hear how you nailed sally sue, or billy bob did you, or mix and match as your proclivity and weekend was. I just dont care. Now if you want to see me get grumpy, go try and expose what you consider an 'education' and orientation to say my nephew that is 10, or my friends daughter that is 11. I dont think either one of them need to know from schools about guy on guy love, or woman on woman sex. It is not the schools/governments place to teach it, any more than they should be up there about hetro positions for 4th graders. wtf. |
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Professional Foole I'm a Male Living in Pullman | Quote:
If many keys can open one lock, it's called a "shitty lock". You're welcome. | |
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Married and then some. I'm a Female Living in Crazytown Looking for Conversation Humor is Goofy Have a Unique fashion style | |
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Engineer of the Love Boat I'm a Guy Living in One in Washington |
Haha that is the most epic answer I've heard.
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