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Old 03-31-2009, 08:58 PM   #1
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Is it ever ok to cheat?

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Old 03-31-2009, 09:04 PM   #2
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Is it ever okay to cheat? Well, for me, NO! I will not cheat and do not want to be cheated on. But not everyone is me.. so maybe for others it's okay? Trying to keep an open mind here.
 
Old 03-31-2009, 09:39 PM   #3
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uh, absolutely not. in fact, i don't even like being around anyone who has or thinks its okay. I'd rather hang out with healthy relationships.
 
Old 03-31-2009, 10:04 PM   #4
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I actually heard a commercial for that while driving & listening to Loveline. I couldn't believe there was a site for that. I mean, I can believe it exists, but who would think of "hey, let's make a website for cheaters!!".

Not my thing. I've been cheated on, and it hurts like hell. It's not fun for either party, if they have at least half a heart. If you're going to be in an open relationship, that's your thing and you've discussed it, but please don't expect me to partake.
 
Old 04-01-2009, 05:30 AM   #5
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I used to have this attitude that anyone that cheated was scum and didn't deserve to live. I was very judgemental where cheaters were concerned......HOWEVER, I have since watched people I love with all my heart, who are really good people, go through HELL in their marriage and ended up having an affair. Did they seek out the affair? NO! Did they do it to get back at the other party in the marriage? NO! Did they seriously feel that they had tried everything in the marriage and just couldn't do it anymore? YES!!!! BUT, they were still married and therefore it was an affair. However, short or long it lasted.

All I'm saying is that it is a case by case basis and it's not anybody's place to judge what goes on in a marriage that they are not involved in themselves. Just my thoughts...
 
Old 04-01-2009, 08:23 AM   #6
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I stick to the age old rule of ..do unto others as you would have them do to you.

I don't want to be cheated on. Although this brings up a second discussion about what is considered an affair or cheating. Is this a purely physical thing or would you consider having an emotional or say internet or phone relationship as cheating or an affair?

Personally I love my wife and am not willing to risk losing her. I don't think having an affair is ok under any circumstance. But that is for me, I don't really care what anyone else does.
 
Old 04-01-2009, 08:24 AM   #7
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Well, for those that have no integrity and a complete lack of moral standards don't bother to educate yourself.

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Old 04-01-2009, 08:26 AM   #8
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Okay.. so some cheat.. and some are truly sorry and ask for forgiveness and move forward. Some, however, have no ill feelings towards their actions. I do not understand these people.

But what if the cheating is not in a marriage but rather just a bf/gf relationship? It's hard to walk away from a marriage but seriously - if things are to the point where you are considering cheating.. then why not just end things first?
 
Old 04-01-2009, 08:35 AM   #9
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^^^^

That is actually what I would always do and what I ask that my SO do as well......if they or myself feel the need to cheat then either tell me and try to work things out or end things. That would be a little less painful then for someone to go behind my back or me go behind their back......
 
Old 04-01-2009, 08:36 AM   #10
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Okay.. so some cheat.. and some are truly sorry and ask for forgiveness and move forward. Some, however, have no ill feelings towards their actions. I do not understand these people.

But what if the cheating is not in a marriage but rather just a bf/gf relationship? It's hard to walk away from a marriage but seriously - if things are to the point where you are considering cheating.. then why not just end things first?

Exactly what I was thinking. Take the moral high ground and just end it. Don't burn bridges where you don't need to, you never know when you're going to have to backtrack. You are obviously not happy, do something about it other than be awful and hurt not only your SO, but yourself (if you have any kinda heart or self worth).
 
Old 04-01-2009, 08:44 AM   #11
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I don't want to be cheated on. Although this brings up a second discussion about what is considered an affair or cheating. Is this a purely physical thing or would you consider having an emotional or say internet or phone relationship as cheating or an affair?.
IMHO Seeking emotional connection outside of the relationship is just as bad as sex.

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Okay.. so some cheat.. and some are truly sorry and ask for forgiveness and move forward. Some, however, have no ill feelings towards their actions. I do not understand these people.
Some people are sorry they got caught. No remorse for the actions themselves.
 
Old 04-01-2009, 08:45 AM   #12
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Is it ever ok to cheat?

Thoughts?
No.
 
Old 04-01-2009, 08:45 AM   #13
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some people are sorry they got caught. No remorse for the actions themselves.
amen!
 
Old 04-01-2009, 12:49 PM   #14
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What do you guys think about this website? About the advertising to the general public?

I see this as a means for someone to try to make "cheating" or an "affair" (same thing in my mind) to seem socially acceptable...and when something is socially acceptable, more people are likely to partake in it.

Do you guys see any potential negative repercussions? Any positive ones?
 
Old 04-01-2009, 01:01 PM   #15
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I think this is as sick and twisted as the show Temptation Island. As for acceptable....we have kinda already reached a certain level. For instance, divorce used to be non-existent and VERY unacceptable. Now everyone rushes into marriage because it is so easy to get a divorce and a divorce is not really looked down on from society.

I am not saying that cheating is now the thing to do and everyone is ok with it etc. BUT I really do think that people have lessened the meaning of commitment etc. to the point where if they cheat, in their mind, on some level it is acceptable.

Am I making sense?
 
Old 04-01-2009, 01:06 PM   #16
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What do you guys think about this website? About the advertising to the general public?

I see this as a means for someone to try to make "cheating" or an "affair" (same thing in my mind) to seem socially acceptable...and when something is socially acceptable, more people are likely to partake in it.

Do you guys see any potential negative repercussions? Any positive ones?
I think it's disgusting that a site like that would exist... but people still have the choice to partake or not so... I don't know.

I think it's nuts that it could be even slightly successful, but then again it just shows how pathetic so many people have become.

These days "I love you" means "I want you" more than it means really loving someone.... and it shows. Rushed marriages, high divorce rate, and people with more ex-spouses than children. It's disgusting, really.
 
Old 04-01-2009, 01:17 PM   #17
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I think its freaking awesome that someone FINALLY is making money on people who cheat. Ashley Madison is making bank off of people doing wrong. Just doing their part in this world to make a buck.
If the person feels that he or she needs to join that website more power to them...

Life is short, and well if your not happy... Its a whole lot cheaper than:
A. A divorce
B. Drugs & Prostitutes
C.Lieing to yourself about how your "happy"

In this day in world, yes "I love you" really means jack. Failed relationships and marriages are on a HUGE rise. People who feel that there SO is not "cutting" it... and they feel the need to find someone else to fill that gap... Your not going to change their mind into going back to someone who they don't care about.

Now, I myself wouldn't cheat on my SO.... I would let them go and play the field... then if feelings were to come back..try to get back..

again more power to them for making a buck on the stupidity of humans nature!!
 
Old 04-01-2009, 01:55 PM   #18
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I'm ready for an affair from the normal..... LOL.
 
Old 04-01-2009, 02:18 PM   #19
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I'm ready for an affair from the normal..... LOL.
See person above you....kthxbai
 
Old 04-01-2009, 02:22 PM   #20
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God?
 
Old 04-01-2009, 02:23 PM   #21
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If you would like to call me that......Ok

But Mike works too ;)
 
Old 04-01-2009, 03:28 PM   #22
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Um.. No.. I don't have affairs with guys named Mike. It's against my beliefs.
 
Old 04-01-2009, 05:16 PM   #23
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You bet it's ok to cheat. It's also ok that I take all your shit and incinerate it in my front yard, then call your boss and say you have herpes and that you are now sleeping with the boss's wife.

Cheater are liars. I do think there is some minor differences in bf/gf than marriage. I think most of us have been cheated on and somehow get over it, painful as it may be. Divorce is a HUGE life altering experience.

But marriage is sacred. I dated a guy once who was separated. Never again. If the marriage is over, get a divorce. In the end I felt like the other woman, it's cuz I was.
 
Old 04-01-2009, 06:29 PM   #24
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Um.. No.. I don't have affairs with guys named Mike. It's against my beliefs.
hmmm...no wonder
 
Old 04-01-2009, 07:02 PM   #25
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Here ya go Mike
 
Old 04-01-2009, 07:36 PM   #26
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The fact that website even exists is f*cked up.

No, cheating is not cool.

If your relationship is that un-fulfilling, end it and go find a new one.
 
Old 04-01-2009, 08:09 PM   #27
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or we could live an fucked up polly anna world where people are kind to each other and we don't need laws or boundries, why? Cuz we will do what we are supose. Get real. Peope are mean, cruel and assholes. They cheat, still and do whatever it takes to better themselves with no regard to society. If we passed laws where cheaters were called out in public, thieves had their hands cut off and child molestors were hung, well by god, I'd subscribe to that world. I'm drinking, typing amazinly well. Let's starting our kids right from wrong. Cheating is wrong. This whofle fuckin sociiety takes too much shit off ech other. I'm ans asshole and prud ouf it. wgat was U satubgubg?s
 
Old 04-01-2009, 08:12 PM   #28
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Here ya go Mike
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or we could live an fucked up polly anna world where people are kind to each other and we don't need laws or boundries, why? Cuz we will do what we are supose. Get real. Peope are mean, cruel and assholes. They cheat, still and do whatever it takes to better themselves with no regard to society. If we passed laws where cheaters were called out in public, thieves had their hands cut off and child molestors were hung, well by god, I'd subscribe to that world. I'm drinking, typing amazinly well. Let's starting our kids right from wrong. Cheating is wrong. This whofle fuckin sociiety takes too much shit off ech other. I'm ans asshole and prud ouf it. wgat was U satubgubg?s
Preach on sista

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Old 07-27-2009, 01:02 AM   #29
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You would be surprised at how much action you get by putting on a wedding ring.
I know it worked wonders when I was just out of college.

Never married. never will. But that doesnt mean I dont have a wedding band in the box ;) When the airports used to be open to not just fliers, it was the all you could eat buffet o fun.

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Old 07-27-2009, 09:07 AM   #30
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^^were you married?
 
Old 07-27-2009, 01:02 PM   #31
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Cheating is BS....if you have to cheat then just move the f@#$ on....dont waste my time, without getting into details, I can say from experience its the worst thing in the world, rejection is one thing but to find out that your wife of 9 years has cheated atleast 4 times...with two others still in question and the fact that other incidents could possibly exist is by far the worst feeling in the world. You wake up one day and your whole life is turned upside down, all your circles have been compromised, friends, family, co-workers, especially if they all had some sort of involvement, and your levels of suspicion otherwise would consume you. I dont wish it apon anyone and my stomach turns at the thought of infidelity.....problem is it seems in todays dating market you have to condone very similar behaviors because no one seems to be loyal, since your not married everyone is just dating, 3 dudes at a time even. uhhg! Im passionately upset at this whole dating debacle!
 
Old 07-27-2009, 01:48 PM   #32
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Cheating sucks!! Finished one thing before you start another please.

I could really go into a huge, long, sad story about how I was cheated on, but I wont cuz it still hurts.

Liars suck, That is All!!!
 
Old 07-27-2009, 09:39 PM   #33
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Cheating is bad. Make up your damn mind. If it's over with your spouse it's over, if you're seeking something you're not getting from your spouse, man up and deal with it one way or the other. That's all right now, I was about to go into a rant....
 
Old 07-27-2009, 10:50 PM   #34
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1 strike, you're out..


and when I say that, I mean with my Louisville Slugger.




(no, not really..)
 
Old 07-28-2009, 04:39 PM   #35
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or we could live an fucked up polly anna world where people are kind to each other and we don't need laws or boundries, why? Cuz we will do what we are supose. Get real. Peope are mean, cruel and assholes. They cheat, still and do whatever it takes to better themselves with no regard to society. If we passed laws where cheaters were called out in public, thieves had their hands cut off and child molestors were hung, well by god, I'd subscribe to that world. I'm drinking, typing amazinly well. Let's starting our kids right from wrong. Cheating is wrong. This whofle fuckin sociiety takes too much shit off ech other. I'm ans asshole and prud ouf it. wgat was U satubgubg?s
WOW, I really AM an asshole huh...who knew
 
Old 07-28-2009, 08:13 PM   #36
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Geez.... just now figuring that out...
 
Old 08-16-2009, 08:59 PM   #37
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saw the ad

Guy laying in bed, wakes up, girl on arm, he is frightened by what he did last nite, and with whom.... rolls his arm out and sneaks out of the coyote ugly situation, grabs his clothes and sneaks down the hall.... to see the weeding pics of him and the girl he was with....

And then the Tag line Ashley Morgan yadda yadda . surprised they didnt play it during the superbowl.
 
Old 08-16-2009, 09:27 PM   #38
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This bothers me. I'm traditionally rather tolerant of a need to find something different. But, I have cheated. I've been cheated on. It was always a stupid mistake...at least when I actually loved the other person.

Sometimes, I have a desire to wander. I used to be lousy for it. I'm usually pretty open about it. If I feel that my needs aren't being met, I'll talk about it. I've had a few gf's who were relatively okay with being "open" with the relationship. The trick was to set priorities and limits, and be safe...and above all, to never be dishonest or secretive about it. The mistrust is what kills the relationship.

IIRC, I only once "cheated"...that is to say, had sex with someone else, secretly, without permission. Ironically, the girl I was dating was a total nympho. I wasn't wanting for sex. But she was possessive...and made the mistake of telling me I wouldn't DARE cheat on her, because I KNEW what she would to to me. This is the equivalent of telling a child not to play in the street. Even if he KNOWS better, even if he doesn't really WANT to...first chance he gets, he'll be out there dodging cars. And even HE won't honestly be able to tell you why.

I feel like I'm getting old, though. I really am feeling less desire to run around. Want to find one person I can really share with.


Anyway, sorry for ranting (I'm bad for that). Bottom line; Cheating = bad. It's not the sex that's bad. It's the breaking the heart of the person you love. If you don't really love them...hell, go for it, twatwaffle.
 
Old 08-23-2009, 12:28 AM   #39
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twatwaffle, love it, it is getting added to the arsenal of insults,
Douche canoe (really not sure what it means, but oy people are might quick to get offended by it)
Anal Drizzle again a slander only heard on the forums
nancy pants
Smegma wretch

it really is the big playground we never graduated from


I dont do ex's. When its over, its over, have a nice life, bu bye
 
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